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14.03.13

Train announcements ‘ruining journeys’ – Baker

Rail minister Norman Baker has accused operators of letting on-board announcements get out of control, saying they are becoming “more and more verbose” and that they “add nothing to the journey at all”.

He said: “We don’t need to be told we are in a quiet carriage, that is why we went there in the first place.

“I don’t know why people are told to read the safety cards, I have never seen a passenger read one.

“Passengers are told they are on a non-smoking train, which seems pointless as all trains in Britain are non-smoking.”

He spoke of a Javelin journey from London to Kent being “ruined by a barrage of announcements”.

But an ATOC spokesman said: “Passengers want concise and relevant announcements, such as what the next station is so that they get off at the right stop.

“A significant majority tell Passenger Focus, the independent rail watchdog, that they’re satisfied with the information they get on trains and at stations. Train companies know there’s always a balance to strike – they need to keep passengers informed without irritating them with too many announcements.”

David Sidebottom of Passenger Focus added: “This repetitive information may be annoying to some passengers, but it is nevertheless vital for others.”

(Image of Norman Baker courtesy Liberal Democrats / Dave Radcliffe)

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Robin Wickenden   15/03/2013 at 13:12

The response from ATOC is typical of railway complacency; they should shut up and listen for a change. Yes, there are some announcements that are simply not needed. Many others are uneducated and ungrammatical: trains arrive AT a stations, for example, not INTO them; inconvenience is caused to people, not to their journeys; the travel on is a train, not a 'service' (which is a series or collection of train journeys). We are frequently offered a 'fully-licenced bar' for sale, along with sandwiches, snacks, etc.; I'd love one, but it would be a struggle to get it home! Yes, tell us which station we're approaching, and, as I recently heard in an excellent announcement on a late-running train arriving at Birmingham, which connections were at which platforms, and which had left already (and the details of the next train to the same destinations - full marks for that!). Also, as a signal engineer, I'm sick and tired of every delay being attributed to 'signal failure', or 'signalling problems', when there is usually nothing wrong with the signalling at all - at most, it's normally just a signal at danger due to a train (either the one being delayed or another) in the wrong place at the wrong time. There some very good examples of on-train announcements, but most of them need to improve considerably - and, yes, they DO often ruin journeys.

J   22/03/2013 at 14:17

Did Norman Baker actually spend taxpayer money to use part of his working day to whinge about train announcements? My train journey would be 'ruined' if the train derailed or if I couldn't make it to my destination on time, but not if the operator made too many announcements. What happens when there are screaming children running about the carriage? It's unpleasant, but personal thresholds of customer irritation are not really the responsibility of the operator. Just because the rail minister has an opinion, it doesn't mean his opinion is important at all. Maybe Norman should do something useful with his position, instead of just giving rail journeys a bad reputation for no reason at all and hurting the public perception of the rail mode when the government initiatives all aim to increase rail's modal share. It's excessive red tape from folks like Norman which forces train operating companies to make 'excessive' announcements about safety cards and nonsmoking trains.

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