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Andrew Gwilt   18/08/2016 at 01:15

The 7 Class 320's (former London Midland Class 321's) are likely to stay with Abellio Scotrail with a further 13 Class 321's used on GTR Great Northern which is likely to be cascaded and could also be transferred to Abellio Scotrail to be re-classified as Class 320's with a non-motor carriage removed as the Class 320's are 3-Car and the Class 321's and Class 322's are 4-Car trains or 13 Class 321's could be transferred to Northern trains to be used on Doncaster-Leeds service as Abellio Greater Anglia already has got 94 Class 321's used on Great Eastern commute services and branch lines in Essex that the Class 321's are used on.

Andrew Gwilt   18/08/2016 at 01:30

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_320 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_321 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_322 Class 322's are the same as the Class 321's but were used on Stansted Express Liverpool St-Stansted Airport direct service and was used for First North Western London Euston-Manchester Airport/Manchester Piccadilly service and also was used on Scotrail's Edinburgh Waverley-North Berwick service before new trains came in for Stansted Express and Scotrail and the 5 Class 322's are used on the Northern Trains Doncaster-Leeds service working alongside 3 Class 321's as well which could see some Class 321's cascaded from Great Northern to be used on that service.

Revolting Peasant   19/08/2016 at 12:21

There will soon be more spare Class 321s than anyone knows what to do with, when Abellio hands them all back!

Kev Smith   19/08/2016 at 14:04

re revolting peasant - there will be plenty of work for the 315,313, 321,319 squadrons, when looked they are a good fleet of units...good lightweight vehicles, unlike the heavy track damaging rubbish built now !!

Andrew Gwilt   19/08/2016 at 15:23

Abellio Scotrail could have the 13 Class 321's to be converted to Class 320's as they received 7 Class 321's from London Midland and Great Northern are ordering the new Class 717's and are receiving the Class 377/5's and 387/1's from Thameslink. With 12 Class 317's to be cascaded to Northern Trains.

David   19/08/2016 at 16:58

Andrew. Great Northern is no longer using the 377/5s, those are going to Southern. ScotRail and Northern have both got new electrics trains on order so why would they need more older trains?

Jerry Alderson   19/08/2016 at 17:32

Hope no offence is taken (and I deserve to be criticised for my lousy typing - stones and glasshouses) but apostrophes are used only for *omission* and *possession* (assocation is perhaps a better term). People often misuse them with plurals inserting them after acronyms such as MP and after numbers (including decades) but they should *not* be there simply because it is a plural. (An MP's expenses or many MPs' expenses, but *not* five MP's resigned.) Hence it should be Class 320s.

Andrew Gwilt   23/08/2016 at 20:46

But Great Northern are getting 29 Class 387/1's from Thameslink and 13 Class 321's could be heading Northern or Abellio GA along with 12 Class 317's that are to be replaced by Class 717's that the Class 317's are likely to be cascaded to Abellio GA until new trains are to be ordered and the Class 317's & Class 321's could be cascaded elsewhere or most likely to be scrapped.

David   24/08/2016 at 15:48

Andrew. Northern don't need more 321s. They're getting rid of the ones that they already have.

Andrew Gwilt   27/08/2016 at 23:17

Well I have heard that the Class 321's could be scrapped as Abellio are replacing the Class 321's with brand new Bombardier Aventra and Stadler EMU's and Bi-Mode (DEMU's) on the East Anglia network.

Revolting Peasant   21/04/2017 at 12:46

Jerry Alderson, you tried bravely, and I commend you for it. However, Mr Gwilt is not to be swayed in his use of apostrophes.