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16.02.16

TfL takeover of London rail could be ‘Crossrail 3’ – Lord Adonis

‘Crossrail 3’ could come about thanks to new plans for Transport for London (TfL) to take over suburban rail services in Greater London, according to the peer heading the National Infrastructure Commission (NIC) investigation into Crossrail 2.

In an appearance before the London Assembly Transport Committee, NIC chair Lord Andrew Adonis said he thought the TfL takeover was as significant as the planned railway from the south to the north-east of London, which could be completed by 2030.

The NIC, an independent agency which assesses Britain’s future infrastructure requirements, is investigating the feasibility of Crossrail 2 and is due to report its recommendations to the government in the next few weeks.

Lord Adonis told the committee: “You could have Crossrail 3, 4, 5, 6 – it can’t come soon enough.

“If I had to say what the most significant infrastructure priorities over the next 15 years, I would probably highlight the capacity to transform the suburban heavy rail lines as the single most important and cost-effective improvement that can be made.”

He also said that Crossrail 2 is a regional project with national significance.

He added: “Crossrail 2 would not be a substitute for continued upgrading and improvement in the Tube. It needs to run alongside it, as does the existing Crossrail scheme.”

As RTM recently reported, under proposed plans all rail services that operate mostly or entirely within Greater London could be transferred to TfL when current franchises expire under a new partnership with the Department for Transport.

The partnership would see TfL take over suburban rail services in the capital and lead on a new London Suburban Metro service.

Recently Lord Adonis appeared at RTM’s TransCity Rail North dinner where he told delegates that new major infrastructure projects like Crossrail 2 and HS3 should look at “wider sources of funding”, including private sector investment, rather than simply receiving money from the Treasury.

145 Crossrail 2 c. Transport for London Press Images

Network Rail chair Sir Peter Hendy also told the transport committee the NIC needs to recommend government funding for Crossrail 2.

He said: “Just like with Crossrail 1 by the time Crossrail 2 gets anywhere near delivery it will become quite apparent that nothing else will do instead of it so we better just get on with it.”

In December 2015, TfL’s Finance and Policy Committee was asked to recommend the Board brings forward £4.74m from 2016-17 to allow the Crossrail 2 project programme “to be maintained” and ensure momentum isn’t lost.

 (Images c. Transport for London)

Comments

Paul Woods   16/02/2016 at 14:19

Apart from Crossrail 1 and Crossrail 2, not many, if any lines cross London, so the soubriquet of "Crossrail" appears incongruous. It would just be creating a bandwagon, without substance. Surely identifying lines for what they are and who they serve, possibly identifying the serve would be more appropriate.

Mike Tyrrell   16/02/2016 at 15:27

There seems to be many possibilities to create new journey opportunities such as South Eastern to perhaps Chilton or South Central to the Watford line there are still others left to do!

Melvyn   16/02/2016 at 20:12

While Crossrail 1 & 2 are both big schemes re length of new route and numbers of stations . Other schemes could be to link Southern lines into London Bridge to lines from Waterloo via a tunnel with Crossrail style stations at these stations with tunnel emerging near Clapham Junction . A station linking Nortgern and Victoria Lines with Vauxhall mainline could be included. Thus creating an east to west route across south London. I also remember earlier plans for Crossrail talked about linking London Bridge to Victoria with new station beneath the West End linked yto say Leicester Squade/ Piccadilly Circus station.

Andrew G   17/02/2016 at 23:17

I dont think that Crossrail 3 may not happen for 10-20 years. Crossrail 1 will be the 1st Crossrail network to open in 2018 and Crossrail 2 is planned to be built in the 2020's with the completion in 2026/2027 or in late 2028.

Mark Jameson   01/03/2016 at 23:30

Where is the funding coming from for all these ideas? Bring back the poll tax so everyone in TFL pays a fair share, not just rate payers. Have you noticed how one major concert venue is excluded from all these schemes - the ROYAL ALBERT HALL - very difficult to get to & from and used by thousands across all walks of life - a venue with an erratic bus service particularly late evening or many coaches all puffing out exhaust fumes. Please divert the Charles line [Crossrail 2 or 3] via this route!

Ed G   17/03/2016 at 12:57

How about building the West London Orbital

S   15/09/2016 at 20:42

Crossrail 2 is a joke. Most of those stations are already well served, while whole swathes of outer London are served by outdated, irregular overground trains, and busses that take hours because there is so much more traffic now everyone has been priced out into the suburbs. What a pathetic response to the issue.

Him   12/08/2017 at 00:54

Is the Dalston Station going to be called Dalston or Dalston or Dalston Kingsland?

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